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In this week’s episode of the National Crawford Roundtable, our hosts dive deep into the historic Middle East peace agreement brokered by Donald Trump between Israel and Hamas. This monumental agreement marks the eighth successful negotiation of Trump’s career, highlighting his ability to bring conflicting parties to the table. Join us as we explore the details of this agreement, its global implications, and the significant milestone of hostages being released. In addition, the episode examines the reaction from world leaders and the skepticism surrounding the effectiveness of such peace treaties.
SPEAKER 01 :
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SPEAKER 04 :
Back with another week of the National Crawford Roundtable podcast with all of the guys. John Rush, Rush to Reason out of Denver, Colorado. Neil Boron, Neil Boron live out of Buffalo, New York. Myself, Bob Duco, the Bob Duco Show out of Detroit. Hey, none of us get to talk about anybody behind their back. We’re all here. So how are you doing, guys? That’s right.
SPEAKER 05 :
It’s not going to be as much fun this week, for sure. I know.
SPEAKER 04 :
Tell me about it. Well, you do what you got to do, I guess. We are talking this week, of course, about the Middle East peace deal and how huge this is. And, of course, this is, we got to remember, this is actually the 8th ceasefire slash peace agreement that Donald Trump has already successfully negotiated. But there’s no doubt this is a huge one. After two years, more than two years now since October 7th and that massacre, we now have peace, at least right now, between Israel and Hamas. We have 20 living hostages that have been returned. And there’s a lot of different aspects of this whole peace agreement thing to discuss. But I kind of want to go around the table and get you guys’ general take, first of all, about just in an overall sense how significant this is because, first of all— I mean, a Middle East peace agreement, the idea that we actually have Israel and Hamas both signing an agreement together. Neil, I’ll start with you. Think about just the imagery of this, that here’s Donald Trump sitting at a big table with Hamas on one side, Israel on the other, and they’re all signing together a peace agreement. And part of this peace agreement is Hamas agreeing to, in essence, lay down their arms, stop the fighting, to release the hostages, and to give up power. Now, will that stick? Will they actually do that? That’s to be worked out. But at least, I mean, they signed their name, Neil, to a peace agreement. And right now, hostilities are not happening. The hostages are, in fact, released. To me, this is extremely historic.
SPEAKER 05 :
Oh, it’s incredibly historic. And honestly, the mere fact that the hostages have been released is cause for celebration, like period, end of sentence. Anything else that beyond that would be wonderful. I tend to be more skeptical when it comes to groups like Hamas, particularly because of their stated goals, but absolutely, totally historic. And you got to believe the entire world was watching. And I got to believe that some world leaders are scratching their heads saying, how does Donald Trump get in the middle of all this stuff? But anyway, it happened and it’s historic and the world’s going to talk about it for a really long time.
SPEAKER 04 :
Right. John, what’s first your 35,000 foot view takeaway from this? What are some of the overall thoughts that you have just about this deal happening before we start peeling back?
SPEAKER 02 :
No, I think it’s, I mean, for those that say it’s, you know, not a good deal and will Hamas abide by this and so on and so forth, you know, well, time will tell. And for all of those that for some odd reason, and maybe we should talk about this, that think that the Jews are the bad guys and Hamas is the good guys. Since the ceasefire has happened, the Jews in Israel aren’t running around rounding up people and executing them out in front of others like Hamas has been doing ever since the peace deal has been initiated. Peace, basically, in other words, we won’t go after Israel, but we’re going to go after our own defectors. Those are defected inside of our own borders here. So those that think that Hamas is some peace-loving organization, Bob, yeah, far from it.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah. Well, and think about the hostages, too, the 20 of them that were released. Those are the 20 that still survived. But you look at the ones that were killed. And I know there’s talk right now about the slow release of the dead bodies. And why is that?
SPEAKER 02 :
Right.
SPEAKER 04 :
Personally, John, and I don’t want to get conspiratorial here, but I wouldn’t be a bit surprised if Hamas doesn’t realize there’s some dead bodies we can’t hand over because when they do an autopsy on them, they’re going to see the level of torture that we did on them. Correct. And I don’t – I think Hamas is trying to – I can’t disagree with that. So that kind of to me is one of the reasons why they’re probably holding back some of those bodies. But those were powerful images though, John, weren’t they? I mean the hugging and the reunion and stuff.
SPEAKER 02 :
Absolutely. Absolutely. And again, for those that – I don’t want to get off track here, Bob, at all, but it just drives me nuts, these people that think for some odd reason Israel’s the bad guy here and Hamas was the good guy. People on our side of the aisle that think that, I just don’t understand that.
SPEAKER 04 :
I can’t wrap my brain around that either. And actually, Neil, there are a lot of people in America, I hate to say it, it’s not just the anti-Semites in the college campuses, but there are some groups, even in some conservative and libertarian circles, their default reaction is to see Israel as the bad guy. And look, Israel’s a secular nation. I don’t agree with everything that they do. Of course, it’s not like Benjamin Netanyahu’s perfect.
SPEAKER 02 :
Don’t agree with everything we do, Bob.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah, I know. But my goodness, when you look at the two, how anybody can have their default sympathies fall to Hamas really is beyond me.
SPEAKER 05 :
I know it sounds like over the top, but I just believe it’s demonic deception we’re talking about. Demonic level deception. It’s not over the top at all. I mean, you look at the two. Countries in question here, the two places in question, you got Israel and Gaza is nothing but a pile of rubble. I mean, people living in those kind of conditions on a continued basis and thinking that Hamas ultimately is good in some way for the Palestinian people. I don’t realize, by the way, that there are Christians in Gaza. Uh, there are Palestinian Christians all over the world, but largely, uh, a Muslim group of people, but you know, it’s the Hamas factor that you really have to look at here. And somebody saying that they’re sympathetic to that kind of way of life in Gaza. When you flip the script and look at Israel, a peaceful nation where people can go and vacation and it’s economically prosperous and people aren’t killing each other in the streets, suicide bombing is a rarity, but if it happens, it’s somebody from, uh, so-called Palestine that got into Israel that carries this out. And I don’t know how any thinking person could look at that and think, well, this is right and that’s wrong when you compare the two side by side, which is why I call it demonic deception. I don’t know what else to refer to it as.
SPEAKER 04 :
It really is. Anybody who can look at them side by side and say, oh, my sympathies lie with Hamas more and not Israel just blows my mind. And we’ve got to say too, look, I feel bad for Palestinian families that are going back into Gaza now and they’re seeing that their homes are rubble. Of course, we feel bad for them, certainly. And we got to remember, there are tons and tons and tons of humanitarian aid that’s flowing into Gaza right now. But that’s a sad thing. But we also got to remember, for all the people on the left that are arguing Well, you know, you got to separate Hamas from the Palestinian people, okay, because they’re not the same thing. I understand that Hamas are a bunch of terrorists, but you know what? Hamas got power in 2007, and it’s not because they took power in a coup. They were elected into office by the Palestinian people in Gaza. So the Palestinian people elected them. And after the October 7th massacre, polls were taken not just from Israel, but taken from Palestinians in Gaza asking, do you support the attack from Hamas on Israel, October 7th? And you had on average between 70 to 80 percent of the Palestinian people, the civilians themselves, that said, yeah, we support this. So, you know, I feel bad their homes were reduced to rubble, but in all fairness, they were supporting Hamas while Hamas was using them as human shields. So if anybody’s the bad guy here for the rubble, it’s Hamas. But there’s a lot more to talk about this. But before that, we get to more of this. I want to remind you folks, of course, that this podcast is sponsored. We appreciate you folks supporting our sponsors like Preborn and like SunPower LED, which, Neil, SunPower LED is really amazing technology in the way that they help people naturally with light.
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SPEAKER 02 :
Yeah. And I’ve had people, you know, you know, again, those that are the Jew haters out there compare what you’re talking about to. Well, you know, does that mean that because, you know, Biden was elected that everybody that went along, I mean, they’re trying to use comparisons as to, you know, the United States and reality is not even close to being, you know, one in the same. And even though every single person there maybe didn’t vote for Hamas at the end of the day, Bob, to your point, They were duly elected. They stayed in power for a long time, as you said. You know, it’s been almost an entire, what, two decades? Pretty close to it? Not quite. Just a little shy of two decades.
SPEAKER 1 :
2007.
SPEAKER 02 :
So we’re 18 years in. 18 years in. Exactly. So almost two decades. So the reality is, you know… How would those people have fought Hamas once they actually elected them? Again, guys, I don’t have the answers to that. All I know is this. While you say, Bob, and I agree with you that I feel sorry for those that maybe weren’t on their side fully, that ended up finding themselves trapped for some odd reason, couldn’t leave, couldn’t get out, whatever the situation is, you feel sorry for them, yes. Although, this is sort of like the abortion argument, Bob, of, rape and incest. This is a small percentage of those that are actually there, that are actually in that camp. The majority are the individuals you’re talking about that supported everything Hamas has done.
SPEAKER 04 :
Right, absolutely.
SPEAKER 02 :
And we can’t forget that.
SPEAKER 04 :
You think this thing’s going to stick, John? Well, I think it will.
SPEAKER 02 :
I think the only way they can start rebuilding the country in any way, shape, or form is to get the fighting with Israel over. And the reality is, and again, as I remind everybody coming into the podcast today, Hamas wants to stay in power. They want to keep rolling along. They’re going to keep doing that. That’s why they’re executing some that were against them, by the way, throughout this last couple of years. I mean, the reality is they’re doing that openly right now. They’re rounding up people as we speak, executing individuals that came out against them. And so I think what they did is they basically turned their forces from Israel to now internally so they can, quote unquote, clean up those that were against them internally and And, yeah, they’re going to plan on rebuilding. I mean, is it going to stick? Yeah, I think it will as far as that goes because what other option do they have? If they don’t get out of this deal, there’s nothing left to rebuild. I mean, as it is, there is a lot of rebuilding that they’ve got to do at this point because, as Neil said, it’s a pile of rubble.
SPEAKER 04 :
Which, by the way, Neil, talking about the pile of rubble, think like a businessman for a second. I know John certainly can, as our resident businessman, can relate to this. But Donald Trump’s vision for what Gaza could be, like a tourist attraction, Dubai kind of place, if you think about it, this really is prime real estate. They’re on the banks of the Mediterranean Sea. So this could really be built into something very good and make a lot of money and certainly be safer for the region and the whole bit. So I don’t know if that’s going to happen, but I’ve got to imagine that Trump is going to be doing everything he can working with these other Middle Eastern nations to say, let’s just not rebuild it by putting up the same brick stuff. Let’s actually get some real estate developers in there.
SPEAKER 05 :
Yeah, it’s interesting. I read an article in the Wall Street Journal the other day, and I think it was written by Peggy Noonan. Don’t quote me on that, but I believe it was. And she’s no fan generally of Donald Trump. But she was making the case that Donald Trump has a rare ability to sort of change the narrative and all of a sudden introduce a new idea, almost like, hey, look, a shiny object in the room, and gave him credit for changing the mindset of what was going on. Everything was focused on Gaza and people starving to death and Hamas and the hostages and everything was gloom and doom for two years. And, you know, several months ago, he introduces this idea of turning it into like the Riviera of the Middle East. Right. And and if even if even for a moment it caused people to stop and go, you know, why are they destroying this land and why aren’t they using it for some prosperous reason or to the benefit of their own people, et cetera? And It caused people to pause for a minute, which everyone needed. Everybody needed to take a breather for a minute and maybe just dream a little bit. But it’s really not a cockamamie idea. I mean, the bottom line is they have a very lucrative piece of property there that they could really do something with. And I think America and Israel in some fashion would help support that concept so that we don’t have to have this kind of situation going on indefinitely. Like, where’s the end of this whole thing? It just till there’s utter destruction. And I don’t think anyone wants that long term.
SPEAKER 04 :
John, as a businessman, think about the vision that Trump has here. I don’t know if it would end up becoming a new Riviera, but I’ll tell you what, if this is a thing where 20, 25 years from now, Gaza is basically like a tourist hub attraction, and you’ve got Middle East cruises stopping off to Gaza, and it looks like Dubai, and here’s the big wave machine pools that people are playing in, and the I mean, if anybody can have a vision for a strip of land, as far as developing goes, it’s Donald Trump. But, you know, John, if that’s what Gaza is 25 years from now, then I don’t know how Donald Trump does not seriously have an entire chapter in the history books as far as the Middle East goes.
SPEAKER 02 :
I agree. And to your point, yes, everything that I think he envisions could easily happen, the thing you’re going to be up against. And this is where, you know, maybe I sound maybe, you know, too negative, but at the end of the day, when you got a bunch of knucklehead terrorists running things, Bob, good luck with that. I mean, at the end of the day, these guys don’t have the same vision business wise that even the rest of the Middle East has. And this is where, you know, those that say, well, they’re all in they’re all in the same camp. Not really. I mean, there is a huge separation between, you know, even the guys that, you know, again, do I agree with everything that, you know, Dubai does? Do I agree with everything that the UAE does? Do I agree with everything that Saudi Arabia does? Of course not. Do I feel like those guys are in our camp and are as kind-hearted and have the same concern for the world that the three of us do? Absolutely not. But do they think like those guys do in Hamas? No, they do not. There’s a vast chasm between those two individuals. And frankly, by the way, going back to will this stick? Yeah, because I think those other countries that I just mentioned are going to make sure that it sticks, because if there’s anybody that has vision to do what you’re talking about, Bob, it’s those guys I just mentioned.
SPEAKER 05 :
Yeah. And can I jump in for I just got to jump in for one second to further what you’re saying, John? Yes. You know, all of this, you know, reconstruction thing, turn it into like the new Dubai. That’s a great idea. And it would cause people to really be able to consider something different for this part of the world. But you’ve got to root out And this is a spiritual thing. You can’t root it out politically or economically or any other way. The demonic hatred of Israel. Why? Because the Redeemer, Jesus, came from Israel and God’s redemption plan includes Israel in that sense. And Satan doesn’t want that. He doesn’t want it. And he wants to destroy Israel, wipe it off the face of the earth. And so until that seed is removed, it’s not going to happen. And I don’t ultimately see any of this come into fruition where there’s wave pools and hotels and everything for the simple reason that it would be destroyed again and again and again by people that hate Israel and hate peace and prosperity. They hate anything that has to do with God and His blessings.
SPEAKER 02 :
The only way that would come to fruition is, like I said a moment ago, Neil, would be as if the powers that be in Saudi Arabia, Qatar, places like that, say, listen, guys, we’re going to come in there, we’re going to pump a bunch of money, and we’re going to get things all done and dialed in. And by the way… You guys are, you know, you’re never to be heard or seen again. We’re going to change things up and do things completely different. And, you know, let’s figure out how this is going to work. Because to your point, Neil, if they run around acting like they are right now, that thing will never, it’ll be a pile of rubble forever.
SPEAKER 04 :
Actually, Neil, I’m kind of curious to get your take also on how this may play into end times, not getting into too much of the eschatological weeds. But, you know, when I was talking about this on my show this week, and I had a couple of listeners saying, Bob, do you think this is maybe a little bit of heading toward the Antichrist, not that Trump would be the Antichrist?
SPEAKER 02 :
Oh, no, no, really quick, Bob. A false sense of peace in the Middle East. The conspiracy is that Jared Kushner is the Antichrist. Yeah, right. But true.
SPEAKER 04 :
I’ve seen it. His dad’s the ambassador of France, so I don’t know what that means. But no, but there is a certain sense of, okay, well, is there going to be a false sense of peace in the Middle East, which many interpret revelation to kind of setting the stage for the Antichrist coming is a false sense of peace, especially in the Could this be that unfolding? We know things are going to get worse before Jesus returns, but there could be some temporary reversals in the downward decline. And to me, I see this as one of the temporary reversals and not necessarily to the false peace that’s setting up Armageddon. I don’t know. What’s your take on it?
SPEAKER 05 :
Well, there’s a lot of different views, obviously, about eschatology in the end times and very divergent views. So let’s just say that right out of the box. But, you know, does the scripture talk about a false peace during the 70th week of Daniel really kicking off the 70th week of Daniel? Yes. Meaning the seven year tribulation period, whatever. So to your point, somebody might be saying, well, OK, peace, Middle East, Donald Trump, you know, getting a lot of accolades for this. Didn’t get the Nobel Prize. Maybe we’ll talk about that later. But either way, you know, like, could this be it? And I think no, but I think it’s close. I mean, I honestly believe that, you know, Bible prophecy will be fulfilled. God makes good on his promises. And one way or another, there’s going to be somebody rise to power named Antichrist, and he’s going to do everything he can to deceive. God’s people and anyone who might be drawn to Jesus. So, yeah, what we’re seeing unfolding, it all has to do with moving towards the end times. Life here in the United States involves moving towards the end times. But is this it yet? I don’t think so.
SPEAKER 04 :
And by the way, we got a lot more to talk about in the second half, of course, regarding this, including, you know, who gets the credit? How much credit does Trump get? What about the Nobel Peace Prize? And did Joe Biden really set the stage for this? And so we got a lot more to talk about. But Neil, first, we do want people to support our sponsors and one of them, of course, SunPowerLED.
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We’ll continue in the second half of the National Crawford Roundtable podcast with myself, Bob Duco, the Bob Duco Show out of Detroit, Neil Boron, Neil Boron Live out of Buffalo, New York, John Rush, Rush to Reason out of Denver, Colorado, talking about, of course, the big news, the Middle East peace deal between Israel and Hamas in Gaza. And we’ve talked about many aspects of this already, the release of the hostages, where those peace agreements stick, the historic nature of this. Let’s start talking about credit, if we will. First of all, John, I got to get your take on this. Joe Biden and Antony Blinken actually claiming that they are the ones who really set the foundation for this peace agreement. All Donald Trump did was, as Biden said, take it over the finish line. And as Antony Blinken, who was Biden’s secretary of state, as he said that it’s a good thing that the Trump administration adopted our plan. It’s like, you’ve got to be kidding me. There was no 20-point plan put together by the Biden administration. This is absurd. Donald Trump made happen what nobody else was able to make happen. And I just, I got to tell you, John, I find this laughable that Joe Biden and Antony Blinken can try to claim what… We’re the ones who did this. He just took it over the finish line.
SPEAKER 02 :
Yeah, these guys weren’t even close to the finish line. They just had a safety, by the way. So they weren’t even close to being in the game, as you know, Bob.
SPEAKER 04 :
You’re right, it’s a safety. They were 100 yards away.
SPEAKER 02 :
Exactly, exactly. I mean, at the end of the day, yeah, I mean, it’s – it’s laughable and i think it’s probably why you haven’t even heard you know trump even come back and say much about that because at the end of the day i mean anybody believing that i mean granted there’s a lot of hardcore lefties out there they’re gonna believe anything these guys say but at the end of the because trump can do no right we’ll talk about that i’m sure bob in the media how no matter what do you mean as you’ve said before the guy could cure cancer and there’d be some some problem with that in the media so at the end of the day they’re not going to give him credit for anything but yeah To think for a second that these other knuckleheads had anything to do with what went on this past week or so, yeah, no, they didn’t have anything to do with this at all.
SPEAKER 04 :
I don’t know, Neil. What do you think? I mean, hey, you know, Joe Biden, he was he was I can totally picture Joe Biden working behind the scenes with Qatar and Egypt and a bunch of these other nations and convincing these Muslim leaders to join in on his 20 point plan. And I’m just glad that, you know, he had the baton and was willing to hand it to Donald Trump right before the finish line.
SPEAKER 05 :
I think Joe Biden and Anthony Blinken are both lying. Neither one had anything to do with this. This was Jill Biden, actually. Jill did this and was able to help create this. I’m kidding. Come on. The Biden administration. Really? gotten nowhere on the whole Gaza situation. And they had no influence whatsoever on Muslim nations or on Hamas. And there was no threat seen, you know, to the future of all that was going on. So no, it didn’t happen. And I give them credit for trying to take you know, credit for it, for trying to say it was them. Hey, good for you. Maybe you can score a couple of brownie points from the people that aren’t really paying attention. But I think by and large, everybody knows, including liberals and progressives who actually hate the idea that Donald Trump is making progress on these kinds of things. They just, they detest it. They can’t believe it. How in the world does this guy pull it off? But Donald Trump was very effective in helping to bring this about. This had nothing to do with the Biden administration.
SPEAKER 04 :
You know, let’s – John, let’s talk about the – look, you guys know, for the most part, I’m a pretty staunch Trump defender. It doesn’t mean I agree with everything he does, of course. But you talk about something that’s very much in his wheelhouse. Trump has proven himself the true master of the art of the deal. I mean, because we’ve got to remember, this guy – You hear terms like 5-D chess or whatever, but this really is how Trump operates. He started at the United Nations General Assembly. What we now know is that he was backstage meeting with all of these Muslim Arab leaders and getting them on board first. And so now you have a situation where he puts together a plan that he had several Arab Muslim nations that were supporting this and backing this. You’ve got the prime minister of Pakistan, which is a nuclear Muslim nation, Islamic nation, and you now have them praising Donald Trump. The man stood there and saluted Donald Trump and said, I salute you and nominating you for the Nobel Peace Prize. When you have Muslim leaders, and we were told, You recall that Donald Trump was such an Islamophobe and he wanted a Muslim ban in this country. Well, guess what? The Muslim leaders throughout the Middle East have exposed our dishonest media is corrupt in this area because they’re like, no, he’s not. We’re working with him against Hamas. But for Trump to get not just Israel, but Israel. world leaders, including a bunch of Arab Muslim nations and the European Union nations and Canada and Mexico and everybody else to basically join him, stand up on stage with him and say, yep, we’re with you as he’s the leader of the free world. And he got all those chess pieces in line like that. That is some master negotiating. I mean, the art of the deal is not just some empty kind of stuff. This guy actually genuinely is a master dealmaker.
SPEAKER 02 :
Correct. Yeah. And you’re right, Bob, this is right in his wheelhouse. These are the things that that, frankly, as I said earlier, media in the left will never give him credit for. And the other thing, too, not that we need to go down this path today, but, you know, the economic crisis. end of things as well, which, by the way, Bob, this and Neil both, this does play into that as well. I’ve said this before. President Trump knows the best way to have a good, strong, vibrant economy here and, believe it or not, around the world is to get rid of all of these wars and all the other nonsense that’s going on. And it’s it’s probably the opposite of what a lot of other folks out there would think. And what I mean by that is, you know, there’s still those, you know, quote unquote warmongers running around, Bob, that will tell you that, oh, no, war is good for the economy. You know what? Those were the old days. It’s not any longer. The reality is because of consumer confidence and all sorts of other things that play into it more so now than probably ever. Reality, Bob, is, you know, war is not good for the economy. And Donald Trump knows that. And to your point, he knows how to get these things done at the end of the day. He really does.
SPEAKER 04 :
And Neil, even some in the… In the media, although they’re reluctant to give Trump credit for anything, even some in the media have been going, you know, it’s like swallowing a horse pill for them. But, OK, you know, let’s give him some credit here. But the fact is that this really is. If this were anybody with a name other than Trump, they’d be they’d be scoping out space for a fifth head on Mount Rushmore. If this were anybody else but Trump. So I really do think that this is remarkable to bring the world together in this way. And for him to pull this off, I don’t know how anybody can be reluctant to acknowledge his skill and ability at negotiating and dealmaking.
SPEAKER 05 :
Yeah. Now, because there’s always more to the story, let me just say I agree with you for the most part across the board. But let’s remember that this is a 20 point peace plan and this thing could go south at any point. Some of these there’s some real sticking points in there if you actually read. all 20 points. And we’re dealing with Hamas largely. Where’s Hamas going to fall on all of this? And would you trust your grandkids to be babysat by Hamas? Not me. No, thanks. I don’t trust Hamas at all. And I don’t think anybody else should, which is why it’s good that there’s this coalition group that’s going to kind of oversee this. So hopefully it all works out. If it doesn’t, then you know all of this is kind of premature so like i think most of the celebrating about donald trump’s accomplishment should happen if this is still in place two years from now and they’re building you know uh resort getaways in a dubai-like gaza you know where all of a sudden real progress is happening and peace is is continuing so i i think it has to play out a little bit i just think it’s too early
SPEAKER 04 :
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SPEAKER 04 :
Absolutely. And we appreciate you folks supporting our sponsors. We continue to talk about the Middle East peace deal that Donald Trump managed to successfully get negotiated. And did he do it alone? No. But did he orchestrate it? Absolutely. Absolutely. And the fact that he got so many nations around the world, including Middle Eastern nations, to come together for this is really incredible. And it does bring me to the Nobel Peace Prize issue. And, John, I want to ask you about this. First, I want to give my take on this. The Nobel Prize Committee, we know they’re a bunch of liberals anyway. I hate to say it, but the Nobel Peace Prize, it doesn’t have the prestige that it possibly had at one time. This is nothing more than a bunch of liberals who are deciding who they want to give it to. I’m not saying that this Venezuelan peace activist who has spoken out against Maduro, I’m not saying she’s not doing noble work down there, of course. But to give the Nobel Peace Prize to her instead of Donald Trump, when you look at what he’s accomplished over the course of this year, eight, count them, eight peace deals and ceasefires between warring nations, including nations that have been at war with each other for decades, like Rwanda and Congo, Azerbaijan and Armenia. They’ve been at war for over 30 years, India and Pakistan, two Muslim nations, so eight Eight different peace agreements overall in just a few months’ time. Any one of those on their own would get the Nobel Peace Prize for any other president. So this is a Nobel committee being the leftists that they are. And let me just say on a side note. This isn’t something new for them. I’m just going to take a side note. Bear with me a moment here. But the Nobel Peace Prize for the MRI, the Nobel Peace Prize in medicine, do you know the inventor of the MRI is a man by the name of Dr. Raymond Damadian? Yeah. He invented the MRI. He has the patent for it. He had two assistants that helped him once he patented it and created it, helped him in developing some additional features of it. All right. Do you know the Nobel Prize Committee gave the Nobel Prize to the two assistants and not the inventor himself? And… Tell me if you think this is a coincidence. Raymond Damadian happens to be a born-again evangelical Christian who’s a young earth creationist. Okay? There’s your answer. This is nothing new for the Nobel Prize Committee. But I do want to make sure and say this, and then I’ll throw it over to you, John. Okay? A lot of people are saying, well – The Nobel Committee didn’t have a choice because the deadline for nominations was January 31st. And Donald Trump had just been sworn into office. He didn’t make any of these peace deals yet. All right. I’ll tell you why that’s a bogus argument. Number one. You have previous nominations already. He had the Abraham Accords already. That right there is a justifiable reason to say, hey, they’re still intact. Let’s give it to him. Secondly, the Nobel Committee, they can gather together and say, you know what? Let’s vote to go ahead and allow a late entry here because he’s been flooded with Nobel Prize nominations around the world. It’s not like it’s international law. that you have to let the deadline be January 31st. So they could have easily made an exception in this case because it’s such an exceptional year. And then finally, thirdly, you have a United States Congresswoman, December 11th of last year, who officially nominated Donald Trump. And she is an officially accepted nominator as well. So he actually was nominated before January 31st. So no, this is clearly a snub from the Nobel Prize Committee.
SPEAKER 02 :
Well, and to prove that, if the next deadline, which is coming up here pretty quickly, if he doesn’t get it next year, Bob, that tells you everything you just said is true.
SPEAKER 04 :
Right. Believe it or not, I actually do tend to think that they probably will give it to him next year unless some kind of horribly disastrous thing happens that tarnishes his legacy in a bad way. But other than that, I’ve got to imagine that the backlash they’re getting is like, okay, this is embarrassing.
SPEAKER 02 :
They’ll clean it up next year.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah. Which, by the way, Neil, the Venezuelan lady, the activist who who was given the Nobel Peace Prize, she even said, I dedicate this to Donald Trump. So I think the Nobel Prize committee themselves have some serious egg on their face.
SPEAKER 05 :
Yeah, I don’t think they care, though. And obviously two different things entirely. But for the same reason, Bruce Jenner was named Woman of the Year by what, Time magazine or whatever? Right. It’s another one of those things. This is politics. This has nothing to do with what’s right. It has to do with adhering to a narrative. And they found the next most qualified person in their mind on the planet and said, oops, there’s our person. Now we don’t have to pick Donald Trump. But I agree with John 100% that if he’s not a recipient next year, that’ll tell you everything you need to know. But however, like I said, there’s 20 points to this peace plan. Even so, he’s had a tremendous impact. No matter what happens in Gaza, I think he would be deserving anyway. So we’ll see.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah. Well, I don’t think really, John, that anybody is going to take the Nobel Peace Prize that seriously anymore. It’s kind of like the Academy Awards.
SPEAKER 02 :
They’re losing their fervor in this and what you’re saying. You’re exactly right.
SPEAKER 04 :
It takes the shine off of the gold of the prize. Academy Awards, they’re not for whoever really was the best actor or what was really the best movie. They’re for who they like the best and their insider people. Same thing with Time Magazine. Yeah, Time Magazine person of the year. That’s a joke. Which, by the way, did you guys see the Time magazine cover, the photo that they used of Donald Trump? I don’t know if you saw that or not. They put him on the cover to run cover for themselves going, see, we’re covering his, we’re even calling it his triumph. Okay. But of all the stock photos, you got millions and millions of stock photos that you can use of Donald Trump. They pick an unflattering image where the sun shining down on him and the shot is shooting up and it looks like he’s bald. He looks like a bald guy with one strand of comb over hair just in the angle of the shot.
SPEAKER 02 :
I didn’t see that.
SPEAKER 04 :
You got to look at it. I just looked it up. It’s pathetic. It’s unbelievable. Trump even posted on. He’s like, really? You use a photograph of me. That’s got to be the worst picture ever. That makes me look bald. They disappeared my hair. And it’s… Very few people look flattering when you’re taking a picture from chest level up at the head and you see his chin and, you know, his neck and everything else. And then he looks like, literally looks like he’s bald.
SPEAKER 02 :
Yep. I’ve seen it. Wow. Come on. No, I see it. Yeah. No, you’re correct. Yeah. That’s the only one they could pick. Doesn’t even look like him.
SPEAKER 05 :
Well, you know, when I lived in D.C. for two years working for Focus on the Family and Family News and Focus, I would stand on the corner waiting for the bus to come to take me to the subway. And there’d be side-by-side Washington Post, Washington Times, newspapers. And there was always some congratulatory headline for anybody named Clinton. And if anyone else who was a solid Republican or conservative or George W. Bush or whoever – They absolutely had the same kind of thing, horrible pictures and horrible headlines, and they just literally lay it out like that. So I don’t know. I wouldn’t take it too seriously. This is what the media does, and people need to pay attention. They don’t want to paint him in a flattering light. They want to do everything they can to discredit him.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah, that is absolutely true. By the way, John, what’s your take on how some of the press and the leftists have handled this whole thing? You know, it’s interesting, the Hollywood celebrities, they are silent.
SPEAKER 02 :
Yeah, I was going to say crickets. Haven’t heard a word.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah, but hold on a second. I’m confused because these are the same Hollywood celebrities that spent the last two years shedding tears saying that we need a ceasefire, we need a ceasefire. When can we have a ceasefire? You got a ceasefire now. Yeah. And now you have humanitarian aid rolling into Gaza. So why aren’t they celebrating? Why are they crickets?
SPEAKER 02 :
Because they’re a bunch of hypocrites, Bob. You already know that answer.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah, I know. I thought I’d give you a softball anyway.
SPEAKER 02 :
Bunch of hypocrites.
SPEAKER 04 :
Actually, it really – I’ll tell you what. I know this is cynical, but I’m just going to say it. I’ve said this many times. The liberal left in this country, their hatred for Donald Trump or for that matter anything conservative or Christian, but especially Donald Trump, their hatred for Donald Trump outweighs – The love that they have for the things that they claim they value. They claim they value diversity. They claim they value tolerance. They claim they value peace and such. No, they don’t value these things. If they did, then they’d be celebrating peace in Gaza right now and humanitarian aid rolling in.
SPEAKER 02 :
That’s right. But they’re not celebrating Europe.
SPEAKER 04 :
It means that they have to swallow the horse pill of giving credit to Trump.
SPEAKER 02 :
Absolutely. Absolutely.
SPEAKER 04 :
So what’s your take on that, Neil? Do you think just your observation of how the press, the Democrats, the news media, the gals on The View and the Hollywood celebrities are treating the Donald Trump factor now?
SPEAKER 05 :
Well, they’re all eating crow right now and they’re praying for the next news story to get off the subject so they can move on to something else because they have egg all over their face, like you said earlier. And there’s no way around it. He’s been instrumental in helping to bring about peace, at least to this degree. And we’ll see where it leads long term. But this is not just Donald Trump saying, hey, there’s going to be peace in the Middle East. There’s a coalition. of nations that are saying, this is what we want, this is what we’ll support, and we’ll be a part of this process. So I think, by and large, he should be celebrated, and it’s not going to happen from people that can’t stand him in the first place. Right.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah. By the way, what does happen? Neil, what happens with the other terrorists? First of all, Hamas isn’t going to go away completely, of course. Islamic jihadi terrorism isn’t going to go away, so we know that. And Iran certainly would still want to try to use Hamas, but… What do you think happens to people like Hezbollah and Boko Haram and some of these other terrorist organizations? Do they end up dying on the vine and losing their support? Or do they just get a bigger piece of the pie if Hamas gets reduced? What do you think happens to terrorism in general?
SPEAKER 05 :
I don’t know because I’m not an expert on terrorism. I think it would probably be the bigger piece of the pie kind of thing because terrorism isn’t going to go away. It’s part of the fabric of people that hate God’s people. Bottom line is, and we talked about it earlier, It’s demonically inspired. But, you know, by and large, I think it’s going to continue to just find new ways to make it happen. You know, new sites to operate from new ways to carry out terrorist activity, maybe even change the name of the organization. Who knows? So that, you know, people can’t track the activities. But the people that are consumed by hatred, the people that are demonically driven to, you know, to eliminate Israel are not going away. And they may go underground for a while. They may find some other place to do what they do. But we can expect to see more of it in the future, but hopefully not in Gaza.
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You bet. And we always do appreciate you folks listening to us. And by the way, of course, we record this on Wednesday mornings. And yesterday, the Presidential Medal of Freedom was given posthumously to Charlie Kirk, to his wife, Erica, from President Trump at the White House. You know, great ceremony. Yesterday was Charlie Kirk’s birthday. And so obviously, we encourage everybody to continue to pray for the Kirk family and everyone that’s been so affected by the devastating assassination. In the meantime, Neil Boron, Neil Boron Live out of Buffalo, New York. John Rush, Rush Region out of Denver, Colorado. Myself, Bob Duco, The Bob Duco Show out of Detroit. Guys, always great catching up with you. Thanks a lot. Have a great week. We’ll see you all next week. You too. Thanks, Bob. All right. We bet. Take care.
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